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cpolys
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posted 12-11-2007 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpolys     Edit/Delete Message
I am currently compiling information regarding conducting examinations on individuals diagnosed with mental disorders. I have done extensive searches on EBSCOhost and other engines but the results are generally unrelated. However, these engines do not include the Polygraph Journal. Is anyone aware of any published literature?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Buster
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posted 12-12-2007 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buster   Click Here to Email Buster     Edit/Delete Message
There is one that took place in a prison with subjects with mental disabilities in an old APA Journal. I will look around, but I can't gaurantee you I'll find it.

The instrument was successful in determining truth/deception in these subjects.

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Barry C
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posted 12-12-2007 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
I think that was on the testing of psychopaths.

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rnelson
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posted 12-12-2007 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rnelson   Click Here to Email rnelson     Edit/Delete Message
Buster,

If you can send that article to me, I'll post a link for download.

I'm not aware of much. Stan Abrams did a couple of things during about the mid 70s, I think those pertained to mentally retarded and/or psychiatric patients. There was an articles from 1981 in the journal, which I think we should be VERY cautious about using. It is mostly a syllogistic discussion involving a host of careless assertions and unsupported conclusions.

Abrams' findings were not good - which is not surprising, because those folks are what we call outliers (their functional characteristics are well outside of the normal range). It is not theoretically simple (or perhaps even feasable or desirable) to have a test that can at once manage the strata of functional characteristics across normal and outlier population groups.

For example: autistic and other mentally retarded persons do quite poorly on IQ tests, but IQ tests are not sufficient of themselves to diagnose autism (and cannot even be used by themselves to diagnose mental retardation - that's why we use them in combination with tests of adaptive functioning). Other tests, like the Gilliam Autism Rating Scales (GARS) are much better at describing the range of adaptive and functional skills for autistic persons. However, the test results of a non-autistic person on the GARS would be entirely uninformative, even if they get a perfect score. OK, this is a gross example, but it makes the point, and there are smaller versions of this situation in many testing contexts.

All I'm suggesting is that we not try to be cavalier or irresponsible about the capabilities of the polygraph with exceptional persons or persons whom we know are outliers to the normal range of functioning for the populations on which the polygraph is normed or validated.

At present, our polygraph methods were developed with populations including non-psychiatric criminal suspects, non-psychiatric volunteers for university lab studies, cohorts of presumably non-psychiatric persons for gummit research. In the case of OSS-3, our cohorts include non-psychiatric LE applicants, and non-psychiatric sex offenders in community supervision and treatment programs.

Rule of thumb: normative data and normative decision models/thresholds pertain to normal functioning individual from the intended populations represented by the study samples The application of normative decision models to known outliers should always be regarded with caution. I think you'd find a tough argument, against some opposing counsel's expert, to include such polygraph results in a rights-affecting legal decision. The big hazard is that any adverse legal decision, or even bad experience, affects polygraph as a whole. Just look at the Ohio decision regarding the 12 year-old with a neurologically based learning disorder.


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cpolys
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posted 12-12-2007 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpolys     Edit/Delete Message
Barry,

I'm assuming you're referring to the study conducted by Raskin and Hare entitled "Psychopathy and Detection of Deception in a Prison Population." I do have a copy of that.

Buster,

Thank you for the reply. Are you referring to a different study than the one I listed above?


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Buster
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posted 12-12-2007 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buster   Click Here to Email Buster     Edit/Delete Message
Unfortunately, I think its one in the same. Sorry if I got your hopes up.

Nelson, it was on paper.

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